Surface Rust Bubbles

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RoyfromTroy

Discussion Starter · Dec 14, 2018

My 2013 Crosstour has 90,000 miles. I am the original owner.
At 85,500 miles I had some surface rust appearing on the driver side rear panel above the wheel well. I had the rust repaired and repainted, looked great. I recently noticed that paint bubbled have reappeared and fear that the metal in this area is starting to oxidize from beneath and suspect some major rusting to appear which will decrease the value of my CT.
Has anyone experienced this or any rust issues?

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Doug67SS

· #2 · Dec 22, 2018

Hi Roy. This sure sounds like rust from the other side of the panel. I'm wondering if the folks who made the prior repair removed the wheel well liner and took car of things on the inside. If they didn't, no amount of repair from the outside will permanently fix the damage.
If you're like me and want to keep your Crosstour "forever" then making this repair properly is well worth the expense. Let us know how you make out.

Pagan Wizard

· #3 · Jun 23, 2019

Most credible auto body shops will give you a lifetime warranty on their work. I would contact them and ask them what your next step should be.

RoyfromTroy

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 28, 2019

An update: Honda agreed to investigate this further and their authorized body shop replaced the rear quarter panel. Found that sealant was missing and the panel was not caulked. Body shop did a great job. Hopefully this is resolved.

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TyroneT

· #5 · Jul 30, 2019

Sorry to hear that.....original repair probably didn't get all the rust prior to repair/repaint

Crosstour Finfan

· #6 · Sep 6, 2019

A few of us on one of the facebook forums have the same problem but with water coming in. The water was coming in around the wheel well and of course that was causing the rust. The body shop did a great job on my Crosstour and no more water is coming in. Some people were thinking the fuel door drain had something to do with it but not with mine.

SRIBrian

· #7 · Jun 12, 2020

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RoyfromTroy said:
An update: Honda agreed to investigate this further and their authorized body shop replaced the rear quarter panel. Found that sealant was missing and the panel was not caulked. Body shop did a great job. Hopefully this is resolved.

RoyfromTroy said:
An update: Honda agreed to investigate this further and their authorized body shop replaced the rear quarter panel. Found that sealant was missing and the panel was not caulked. Body shop did a great job. Hopefully this is resolved.

Hi, I also have a 2013 crosstour EXL with around 95,000 miles. My mistake was taking it to the Honda dealership body Shop they did the same as your Honda but less than a year later the rest came back with a vengeance. Now there's a big hole on my left rear quarter panel above the wheel. The Honda dealership (West Herr Honda, Buffalo New York) wouldn't help me in any way. they said once rust starts like that you can't stop it. The Regional Honda Rep wouldn't even talk with me. That's not the half of it, I also have a leak under my rear driver side seat which has destroyed the leather and rusted all sheet metal under the seat and under the trunk trim. Again, the Honda rep wouldn't even meet with me. I took out all seeding and rear internal trim and I found the leak. It's a poor weld above the gas tank sending unit cover plate on the driver side. (I have many more pictures than these.)

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cargusjoh

· #8 · Aug 29, 2020 (Edited)

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Sonia P.

· #9 · Sep 28, 2020

It looks like I have the same problem. I got my rust fixed almost 2 years ago and it came back. My car is also rotting. Fun, because I still owe 2 years on it due to the great negotiating deal I got.

cargusjoh said:
Can you indicate exactly were to failed seam is please? [email protected] <- for more pictures if you want.

So, saw your comments. I have been dealing with the same problem

SRIBrian said:
Hi, I also have a 2013 crosstour EXL with around 95,000 miles. My mistake was taking it to the Honda dealership body Shop they did the same as your Honda but less than a year later the rest came back with a vengeance. Now there's a big hole on my left rear quarter panel above the wheel. The Honda dealership (West Herr Honda, Buffalo New York) wouldn't help me in any way. they said once rust starts like that you can't stop it. The Regional Honda Rep wouldn't even talk with me. That's not the half of it, I also have a leak under my rear driver side seat which has destroyed the leather and rusted all sheet metal under the seat and under the trunk trim. Again, the Honda rep wouldn't even meet with me. I took out all seeding and rear internal trim and I found the leak. It's a poor weld above the gas tank sending unit cover plate on the driver side. (I have many more pictures than these.) View attachment 9626 View attachment 9627 View attachment 9625

Sonia P.

· #10 · Sep 28, 2020

My 2013 Crosstour has the same problem. Rust on the rear driver's side quarter panel. I got the rust fixed 2 years ago and it returned. The auto body place won't touch it again and my mechanic says it won't pass inspection this coming January. The rust is coming from a leak inside the vehicle. The dealership said it's too old to fix and gave me customer service. Customer Service said no one else has had this problem and told me to call my insurance company. I told her the insurance doesn't pay for rust. She said, "Of course, it does." Way to pass the buck. This is a serious problem and people need to let Honda Corporation know about it.

cargusjoh

· #11 · Nov 26, 2020

RoyFromTroy, what was the cost of the quarter panel removal/repair?

Sonia P.

· #12 · Nov 26, 2020

RoyfromTroy said:
My 2013 Crosstour has 90,000 miles. I am the original owner.
At 85,500 miles I had some surface rust appearing on the driver side rear panel above the wheel well. I had the rust repaired and repainted, looked great. I recently noticed that paint bubbled have reappeared and fear that the metal in this area is starting to oxidize from beneath and suspect some major rusting to appear which will decrease the value of my CT.
Has anyone experienced this or any rust issues?

Yes. Unfortunately, your vehicle is rusting from the inside out. The autobody shop would not replace the quarter panel because the car was dangerously rusted through to the back seat. I still owed money on my vehicle and Honda would not acknowledge it. The car has been junked. I loved my CT, and feel betrayed by Honda. It's a manufacturer defect that allows water to get inside.

littlepilot

· #13 · Dec 11, 2020

My 2014 is gone. same issues happening and surface rust with a well kept car at only 55,000.....Honda wanted no part in helping me.
On to a used Lexus.

JMoly

· #14 · Dec 18, 2020

littlepilot said:
My 2014 is gone. same issues happening and surface rust with a well kept car at only 55,000.....Honda wanted no part in helping me.
On to a used Lexus.

Yep, me too. 2014 Crosstour was fixed twice by dealer's body shop (Valley Honda, Monroeville PA) and rust appeared back both times in less than 5 months. Honda paid for both repairs but now doesn't want to help any further. They would only pay for the "cheap" way to repair. This started around the 60,000 mile mark. I've owned 5 or 6 Hondas over the years. My next car will be a Subaru.

N8M

· #15 · Feb 17, 2021

I am having the same issue with my 2015. I had it repaired about 2 years ago at about 45K and it is coming back. I am the second owner and purchased it as a Honda Certified Pre-Owned at about 25K. But Honda (West Herr Honda of Buffalo) said that the rust/paint warranty is only good for the first owner. So I had it fixed at a local autobody shop.

If anyone can show where the leak is coming from in the gas tank area maybe I can get it fixed when I get the rust fixed again.

dpeer

· #16 · Jun 23, 2021

RoyfromTroy said:
An update: Honda agreed to investigate this further and their authorized body shop replaced the rear quarter panel. Found that sealant was missing and the panel was not caulked. Body shop did a great job. Hopefully this is resolved.

Please let me know with details how you got Honda to make this repair. I am dealing with this issue now. My local dealer I bought the car from began request but the district warranty manager denied my claim. Now I have to deal with Honda Corp.

Sonia P.

· #17 · Jun 29, 2021

RoyfromTroy said:
My 2013 Crosstour has 90,000 miles. I am the original owner.
At 85,500 miles I had some surface rust appearing on the driver side rear panel above the wheel well. I had the rust repaired and repainted, looked great. I recently noticed that paint bubbled have reappeared and fear that the metal in this area is starting to oxidize from beneath and suspect some major rusting to appear which will decrease the value of my CT.
Has anyone experienced this or any rust issues?

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Unfortunately, the same happened to my CT. It rotted from the inside out. I had it repaired and the bubbled appeared again. I took it to another body shop and he showed me that my whole back seat was rotted. I read on other sites about other people having the same problem. Honda did nothing for me. I still owed money on the vehicle. I was very upset because it didn't pass inspection and I had to buy a new car.

mnproyer

· #18 · Jul 6, 2021 (Edited)

RoyfromTroy said:
My 2013 Crosstour has 90,000 miles. I am the original owner.
At 85,500 miles I had some surface rust appearing on the driver side rear panel above the wheel well. I had the rust repaired and repainted, looked great. I recently noticed that paint bubbled have reappeared and fear that the metal in this area is starting to oxidize from beneath and suspect some major rusting to appear which will decrease the value of my CT.
Has anyone experienced this or any rust issues?

I have the same issue. The body shop said they could fix it the easy way but in two years it would be back. To fix it for good would cost $2k and the car is 8 years old, which to him didnt make sense. So I sprayed it with the special formula that turns rust into a stable metal. I realize It did not get behind the panel, but I hope it stops it for the next 2-3 years. I sanded it smooth, primed it. My issue is where do I find paint that matches my Basque Red II? I ordered some but it does not match eventhough it has the right code, R548P. But the paint was more black cherry than red. Where so I get the correct paint?

Feabhra13

· #19 · Aug 3, 2021

SRIBrian said:
Hi, I also have a 2013 crosstour EXL with around 95,000 miles. My mistake was taking it to the Honda dealership body Shop they did the same as your Honda but less than a year later the rest came back with a vengeance. Now there's a big hole on my left rear quarter panel above the wheel. The Honda dealership (West Herr Honda, Buffalo New York) wouldn't help me in any way. they said once rust starts like that you can't stop it. The Regional Honda Rep wouldn't even talk with me. That's not the half of it, I also have a leak under my rear driver side seat which has destroyed the leather and rusted all sheet metal under the seat and under the trunk trim. Again, the Honda rep wouldn't even meet with me. I took out all seeding and rear internal trim and I found the leak. It's a poor weld above the gas tank sending unit cover plate on the driver side. (I have many more pictures than these.) View attachment 9626 View attachment 9627 View attachment 9625
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SRIBrian said:
Hi, I also have a 2013 crosstour EXL with around 95,000 miles. My mistake was taking it to the Honda dealership body Shop they did the same as your Honda but less than a year later the rest came back with a vengeance. Now there's a big hole on my left rear quarter panel above the wheel. The Honda dealership (West Herr Honda, Buffalo New York) wouldn't help me in any way. they said once rust starts like that you can't stop it. The Regional Honda Rep wouldn't even talk with me. That's not the half of it, I also have a leak under my rear driver side seat which has destroyed the leather and rusted all sheet metal under the seat and under the trunk trim. Again, the Honda rep wouldn't even meet with me. I took out all seeding and rear internal trim and I found the leak. It's a poor weld above the gas tank sending unit cover plate on the driver side. (I have many more pictures than these.) View attachment 9626 View attachment 9627 View attachment 9625

I have a 2013 EX-L with 87k miles and the rust looks just like yours! I can’t believe this. The body shop guy thinks the car may have been in a flood and was never reported to CarFax. But seeing yours, this is looking like a common thing. I’m irritated and saddened at the same time. I love this car. Nothing I can do but get something else. I’m looking into a used Toyota RAV4.

Feabhra13

· #20 · Aug 3, 2021

RoyfromTroy said:
My 2013 Crosstour has 90,000 miles. I am the original owner.
At 85,500 miles I had some surface rust appearing on the driver side rear panel above the wheel well. I had the rust repaired and repainted, looked great. I recently noticed that paint bubbled have reappeared and fear that the metal in this area is starting to oxidize from beneath and suspect some major rusting to appear which will decrease the value of my CT.
Has anyone experienced this or any rust issues?

Yes!

Sonia P. said:
My 2013 Crosstour has the same problem. Rust on the rear driver's side quarter panel. I got the rust fixed 2 years ago and it returned. The auto body place won't touch it again and my mechanic says it won't pass inspection this coming January. The rust is coming from a leak inside the vehicle. The dealership said it's too old to fix and gave me customer service. Customer Service said no one else has had this problem and told me to call my insurance company. I told her the insurance doesn't pay for rust. She said, "Of course, it does." Way to pass the buck. This is a serious problem and people need to let Honda Corporation know about it.

Does anyone know if there is a recall for this or any possible class action suit? I'd like to report this serious issue. Honda knows better and should be accountable for their shitty work

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