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I am quite happy with my crosstour! Only issue I have is the downshifting. When I slow down the transmission downshifts pretty hard which jerks my head forward a little. So it's impossible to slow down smoothly as it goes down a couple gears. I'm sure it's downshifting because I watched the tac jump up when it happens. I had also have a 98 Accord and it doesn't do this. So I'm wondering if anybody else with a Crosstour has noticed this?

I only have 4k miles on the car so and haven't brought it in for service yet.
 

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I am quite happy with my crosstour! Only issue I have is the downshifting. When I slow down the transmission downshifts pretty hard which jerks my head forward a little. So it's impossible to slow down smoothly as it goes down a couple gears. I'm sure it's downshifting because I watched the tac jump up when it happens. I had also have a 98 Accord and it doesn't do this. So I'm wondering if anybody else with a Crosstour has noticed this?

I only have 4k miles on the car so and haven't brought it in for service yet.
Those downshifts sound like they are forced as in manually shifting down from speed and not normal at all.
See the dealer and let us know the diagnosis.

BTW welcome to CrossTour Owners Club. Glad to have you along.

C.
 

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I've noticed the CT does downshift harder than most vehicles I have driven. My CT does not downshift as hard as you describe, It is not so violent that I'm pulled forward by any inertia.

This can be adjusted through the software. I had an 08 Avalon, Toyota's 'float' when you take your foot off the gas. Yhey 'reflashed' the software as part of their recall last winter. After the 'reflash' the car would really jerk down through the gears.

Agree with Colin, not normal if it is as violent as you describe. Let us know what they do to correct it.


And welcome to the forum.
 

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I wouldn't call it violent, but it's definitely noticeable and not right. Thanks for the replies and I'll let you know what I find out.
 

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Mine does this. My Mercedes did this as well when it was in "sport" mode. I don't consider it unusual at all, and it is only noticeable if I am braking hard. I rather like that the engine is being downshifted for me to assist with braking when I am getting on the brakes. If I am just slowing down, however, there is no sensation of the downshifts.
 

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Mine does this. My Mercedes did this as well when it was in "sport" mode. I don't consider it unusual at all, and it is only noticeable if I am braking hard. I rather like that the engine is being downshifted for me to assist with braking when I am getting on the brakes. If I am just slowing down, however, there is no sensation of the downshifts.
Now that you mention it Ian, that happens when I slow my CT also as well as my Lexus ISF. That may be part of the intelligent transmission program that aids in safety that I read about as Honda's "grade logic control system".
As you say tho, on normal slowdowns, and without stomping the brakes, I get no such jerkiness as described by ghankerson.
Sounds like his tranny/TCU need some adjustment.

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I also get the occasional rough down shift... I've been tempted to go back to the dealer.

Our vehicles do have the "rev matching" downshifts... which explains why you are seeing the RPMs increase when the transmission downshifts.

Maybe I'll make a call to the dealer....
 

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I went to inquire about this before on my old accord and I was told that its supposed to do that because of the limited slip differential. He explained it to me but I can't remember exactly what he said. Maybe someone here knows lol. I haven't experienced anything of concern in my CT so far in regards to down shifting.
 

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My CT has a mildly rough downshift as well. It occurs from 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd gears. The more annoying one is the 3rd to 2nd gear. For me, the shift occurs at about 25 mph. So when you have some moderately slow traffic, it can get pretty annoying. I'm taking it to the dealer this weekend to see what they say. I can live with it, but if it's a potentially greater problem, I want to deal with it now. It's not terrible, but when the car slows down when you don't expect it because of engine braking, it can be a mind game.

Any follow up people who spoke with their dealers about this issue?
 

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Just came from the dealership, they said that the transmission is. Adaptive. They said that I should give it a couple of months, and it should adjust to.my style of driving. We'll. See
 

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Just came from the dealership, they said that the transmission is. Adaptive. They said that I should give it a couple of months, and it should adjust to.my style of driving. We'll. See
Believable. I had a Volvo with the same setup.

If the battery was disconnected, my shifting would be a little rough for a while until the system re-learnt what ever it is that it has to learn.

*shrug*
 

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Adaptive huh? It seems to shift better than when I first got it. Thought it was my imagination. I noticed it downshifts at around 35, 23, then 5 when slowing down.
 

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Just came from the dealership, they said that the transmission is. Adaptive. They said that I should give it a couple of months, and it should adjust to.my style of driving. We'll. See

You got the bum's rush mate.

Sure it's adaptive after the battery is disconnected or the Transmission Control Unit is reset or replaced, but as far as you've said, you didn't do any of that so it should already be 'adapted' to your style of driving and shift all but seamlessly UP and DOWN.
They don't take months to adapt......:rolleyes:

My CT tranny shifts smoothly and predictably, without any sign of jerkiness or harshness whatsoever. If it did, then I'd want to know what's wrong and feel that my service department would want to know also.
As I explained b4: If I shift the trans, that's another story; I'll get some entirely predictable sensation at shifts.
 

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So I've been trying to read up on adaptive transmissions. I've read that they learn instantly, constantly, may take 1000's of miles to learn, etc. No one seems to have a consistent answer to the question: "how long does it take to learn?"

Anyone know specifically for the Honda adaptive automatic transmissions on how long it could take?

Additionally, I also read that the more you drive on the highway, the less info the program has to adapt, since you're mostly driving at a constant speed. I drive 95% highway, with no traffic. Does anyone know if this is accurate?

When I coast to a stop, my tranny downshifts from 3rd to second at about 30-25 mph. I think 20 would be a little smoother. It gets pretty annoying when I'm in stop and go traffic. Is this consistent with your experience? When I stop more aggressively, I do not feel the downshift.

I'm thinking about resetting the tranny. Bad or good idea?
 
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