Last saturday I drove from Jacksonville FL to Durham NC. Left FL with 6,150 miles on my crosstour with the oil level spot on. Arrived in NC with 6,645 miles. The next morning (Sunday) I checked the oil and noticed it was 1.5 qts low. Added 1.5 qts and continued to drive for another three days. Changed the oil on Wednesday (FIRST OIL CHANGE) with 7,128 miles, Mobil-1 0W-20. Returned to FL yesterday (Sunday), 515 miles driven. Current odometer reading is 7,977, checked the oil this morning and the oil level is perfect. Anyone have any ideas on why I was 1.5 qts low the first trip and not the second? Should I be concerned with oil blow by, faulty oil rings,...? Should I take it to the dealership, to atleast have them annotate it in my profile?
Engine Oil 1.5 qts low
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I had 6,500 miles on mine before I checked the oil for the 1st time and was 3/4 qt low. Called dealer service and he said to add oil and they will check when I bring in for 1st service. Used Mobile 0w-20 for add. Now at 7.5K I rubbed inside of tailpipe with my finger and pulled black out on both exhaust, then walked over to my Toyota Tacoma 2003 182K and nothing? Me no like this. I never check my tacoma and probably have not checked it more than a dozen times since I bought it...sweet.
Here is the rub, was the oil level low from factory for my CT? I don't know cause I never thought I need to check new vehicle! I will post when I get oil changed and discuss with dealership.....
Here is the rub, was the oil level low from factory for my CT? I don't know cause I never thought I need to check new vehicle! I will post when I get oil changed and discuss with dealership.....
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My oil level is a little above full at 1,048 miles. This is the 1st time I've checked...
-fred
-fred
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One of my coworkers has a 2009 Chevy Avalanche the cylinder shut-off feature. He says it tends to use a little oil. I wonder if the piston and valves being in motion in a cylinder that randomly doesn't get fuel or a spark to create combustion can cause the engine to burn oil. His avalanche has no leaks. The engine is clean. So is his parking spot at work and his garage at home. Yet, it uses about a 1/2 to 3/4 quarts of oil between changes.
Thoughts?
-fred
Thoughts?
-fred
I picked up my CT on 07/26/2010, I've put 8,400 miles, the production date on my CT is 05/10. I've check my oil level every weekend and it has been perfect.
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My oil level is still a bit above full with just over 1,500 miles. I checked all of my fluids when I took delivery to get an accurate baseline.
If you hadn't checked the level prior to when you discovered it was low, it is difficult to speculate on whether the level started off below where it should have been or some "disappeared".
My guess is that all cars go through numerous checks before leaving the dealership so odds are, all the fluids were topped off appropriately. I notice on my car there are sharpie slash marks through all of the fluid covers indicating that some form of Q/C check was conducted.
Better to be safe than sorry. I would get everyone on the same page now... call Honda, tell them you have an oil consumption problem and request a case number. Then call the dealer with the case number.
--EvanW
If you hadn't checked the level prior to when you discovered it was low, it is difficult to speculate on whether the level started off below where it should have been or some "disappeared".
My guess is that all cars go through numerous checks before leaving the dealership so odds are, all the fluids were topped off appropriately. I notice on my car there are sharpie slash marks through all of the fluid covers indicating that some form of Q/C check was conducted.
Better to be safe than sorry. I would get everyone on the same page now... call Honda, tell them you have an oil consumption problem and request a case number. Then call the dealer with the case number.
--EvanW
Your answer might be that you checked the oil on a different level than before...for some reason the dip stick in pan reads much different on unlevel ground if only an inch from front to back and other way? I can hardly tell I have a slope difference between front and back of driveway. I have learned to check mine after same time engine off on same spot in my garage, but with 0w-20 how long could such thin oil take to settle? Just what I figured out for me anyhow... Plus, with such thin oil how long does it take the rings to seat? Maybe why they say go to 5% on 1st oil change?
We had a 2005 (I think) Buick Rondavious (how do you spell that?) that we took on a 250 mile trip. When we got there, it needed 2 quarts of oil. Took another 250 mile trip....another 2 quarts of oil.
We took the car to the dealer....they had no answer. It was not a leak either. I have not had a car in years that "used" oil. I didn't think they did that any more.
We got rid of the car.
We took the car to the dealer....they had no answer. It was not a leak either. I have not had a car in years that "used" oil. I didn't think they did that any more.
We got rid of the car.
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Unbelievable! Not exactly the best of customer service, and a heck of a good way to lose repeat custom.
From my understanding, oil usage is a given and can be classified as "normal" when usage is at the rate of a quart in 1000 miles.
The problem arises when most others with the same car don't use much (or any) at all.
Of course that excessive usage isn't normal but the manufacturer's statement of "normal" is just a CYA loophole.
I think that if they're pushed hard they will admit that it's not "normal" and something (IE new engine) should be done.
C.
I have 3200 miles on mine - has never burned a drop -despite hitting 110 - 120 Mph in the bad boy while I was breaking it in. Like any new engine, constantly varying the speed is key to break-in for the first 1500 miles - this seats the rings, etc. properly.
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Yikes that was fast.......I hope you were on the track when you did that.
Was that 'tapped' or was there more?
No track - you'll know this area - Rte 15 north to Rochester - all four lanes, but in Pa through the mountains as it's all new Highway (will be I-99 in the future). It was the most fun I've had in years driving a vehicle. I had a Dude in a Altima 3.5L from Ontario try to stay with me - no chance, I think he got scared at 110Mph. There was more to be had from the engine for sure. I figure the CT will hit 130 before the limiter kicks in.
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Haven't been down that way for some time now but it sounds like a decent hwy.
Pretty hard to get those wusses from Ontario to go much above the century.
(actually I'm an even bigger wuss and generally don't go much above 70mph or so)Seriously tho, Don't forget he was reading his speed in KPH's which show a much bigger number (162kph = 100mph): a psychological barrier I guess, and could get danged expensive if you get caught....Not to mention the insurance ramifications, and last but not least : the company riding with ya. (he probably wasn't alone).
Enjoy the CT.....She's quite the ride.
You are correct, for dealership service manager told me same Saturday. 1 qt per 1k. Bogus CYA. I placed my finger in my CT tailpipe and pulled out black, he walked over and did same on Accord next to mine and said 'see they are the same" me say so they both have same engine problems huh? No comment returned.Unbelievable! Not exactly the best of customer service, and a heck of a good way to lose repeat custom.
From my understanding, oil usage is a given and can be classified as "normal" when usage is at the rate of a quart in 1000 miles.
The problem arises when most others with the same car don't use much (or any) at all.
Of course that excessive usage isn't normal but the manufacturer's statement of "normal" is just a CYA loophole.
I think that if they're pushed hard they will admit that it's not "normal" and something (IE new engine) should be done.
C.
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I don't doubt that OEM's have a CYA clause like that. However I can say that I once worked for a year at a buick dealership and another two years at a Ford dealership as a line mech. In that time, I never once heard that engines were expected to use one quart of oil per each thousand miles of use. In fact, I remember replacing the rings and deglazing the cylinders on a couple oil users. I also remember replacing several Escort heads that were warping and blowing oil everywhere. All of this was done under factory warranty.
Again, I don't doubt that what you say is true. I'm just surprised at how much things have changed in the world of factory automotive service over the last 20 years.
I hope Honda will stand by their product and take care of their customers....
-fred
Again, I don't doubt that what you say is true. I'm just surprised at how much things have changed in the world of factory automotive service over the last 20 years.
I hope Honda will stand by their product and take care of their customers....
-fred[/quote]
Fred, I can hardly believe myself! Since when does a auto nowdays expect to burn/use oil! Thats NUTS. When he walked over to Accord tailpipe (10 second round trip) and brought back a black finger and said they all do that...knock me over with a feather. This was in Shreveport La. But it's not over till the fat, I mean my ex-wife sings.
I hope Honda will stand by their product and take care of their customers....
-fred
[/quote]Fred, I can hardly believe myself! Since when does a auto nowdays expect to burn/use oil! Thats NUTS. When he walked over to Accord tailpipe (10 second round trip) and brought back a black finger and said they all do that...knock me over with a feather
. This was in Shreveport La. But it's not over till the fat, I mean my ex-wife sings.
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rings don't seat that quickly as far as I know.......
Somebody put some STP in the crankcase???
C.
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