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The Bomber,

New to the Forum!!

Can you post a link to the TSB 16-066 regarding "Judder"? I'm having difficulty finding the source data to show my dealer...they're pushing back.

I'm having the same issue...judder/flutter, minor power surges from zero to 45 MPH.

I have a 2013 2WD with 45K miles.

Thanks!
 

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Crosstour Shudder issue SOLVED

This will be of great interest if it has not already been solved. I would be shocked if this information is not readily available about the Honda Crosstour shudder.

I purchased a used 2013 Crosstour EXL 6 cyl 4WD in mid 2015.

I noticed a shudder accelerating around 25-35 mph after having the car a few days.
I mentioned it to the service adviser at the dealership (Bill Pearce Honda in Reno, NV 775 789-7999)). Initially he said he was completely unaware of such an issue.

A week later, however, when I was back for something else, he told me he found the service bulletin regarding that EXACT issue and that Honda was aware of a driveshaft problem on the Crosstour. My car had 42K miles but they replaced both axles N/C on Nov. 30, 2015 and the problem was completely solved. It drove so much better I could not believe it.

They should be able to look up the issue and find the bulletin for you.
I no longer own the vehicle (for unrelated reasons) but the service guy's name is Randy, my service invoice was 405986 and it was Bill Pearce Courtesy Honda in Reno, NV. (I would be glad to get anyone my VIN if necessary.)
 
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Had the same problem with my 2012 Crosstour V6 4WD.

They said the torque converter was bad-- changed it but the 'flutter/judder' was still there.

They said the drivers side axle was bad-- changed it but the 'flutter/judder' was still there.

They said the center axle was bad-- changed it but the 'flutter/judder' was still there.

Finally they changed the right side axle and all is well, smooth as silk again.

My car has 94,000 miles on it, but had the extended warranty to 100,000 miles so all the work was 'no charge'. :D
 

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Shudder at low speed

Hello,
I have a 2010 Crosstour and it does the same shudder/vibration thing between 20-25 MPG. I bought it used. The records show that the rotors had been resurfaces twice. My thought was is came from an area where they have snow and maybe the salt on the road caused an issue. Now I am wondering if the previous owner had the same issue. It is not consistent. Does Honda know the cause or am I going to need to pour money into the car?
 

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I was tormented with this problem for several years and found a solution. In my case, it had nothing to do with axis, tires, or brakes problems. The problem was solved by replacing Oil Pressure Switch # 37240-R70-A04. Good luck to all! Ready to answer any questions.
 

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I was tormented with this problem for several years and found a solution. In my case, it had nothing to do with axis, tires, or brakes problems. The problem was solved by replacing Oil Pressure Switch # 37240-R70-A04. Good luck to all! Ready to answer any questions.
Wow- that's something to keep in mind!

Thanks for posting about it.
 

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Have heard of this, and told it is normal, but haven't experienced it. Possibly try different tires/tread pattern.
 

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I was tormented with this problem for several years and found a solution. In my case, it had nothing to do with axis, tires, or brakes problems. The problem was solved by replacing Oil Pressure Switch # 37240-R70-A04. Good luck to all! Ready to answer any questions.
I just recently bought a 2010 and mine occasionally also has the 20-25 mph shudder. That oil pressure switch is a $10.00 part from Honda parts direct, worth a try for that price. I don't see how the oil pressure switch would cause that problem, seems more like a transmission issue but if it works for one person it might work for another.
 

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You are absolutely right - what works for one may work for another. But there is still a connection between the shudder and the sensor's work. It works like this. Jitter is the result of the ECU working when it receives different readings from two oil pressure sensors (ideally, they should be the same and be in a certain range). The ECU decides to turn on the VCM system and deactivate one or more cylinders in these driving conditions or to completely turn off the system and go into emergency engine operation. This is simplified, there are much more conditions and sensors involved in this process, but these oil pressure sensors play a role in this orchestra. During operation, these sensors may fail partially or completely and may give incorrect values ​​and their replacement, simply returns the state of the system to its original position. For those who want to check their effect on the VCM system, you can disconnect the contact from any of the sensors and the engine will go into emergency operation mode and you will receive an error code about incorrect operation and deactivation of the VCM system. We cannot rewrite the control algorithms of the ECU, but we can influence its operation in this way. Thus, for me, this problem is caused by an attempt to turn off one or more cylinders at this moment on the basis of incorrect readings of the oil pressure sensors, which causes jitter. Indeed, with more aggressive acceleration or a greater load on the engine, this does not happen. I am not a developer of codes for Honda and this is just my personal opinion.
 
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