Crosstour Vibration / Flutter 20 - 25 mph
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The Accords have a different suspension than the CTs. Not just the double wishbones vs struts up front. The transaxles come into the transmission at different angles because of the difference in ride height, too. And bigger brakes, which are heavier. And... other things, I suppose. So, I'd have to think that any vibrations in the Accords would be coincidental to those in the CTs.
But the AWD (or 4WD) in the CT came from the CR-V, at least at the design level. I don't know how many parts they have in common. My sales guy told me that the CT is based on the Pilot, though. Not sure how true that is.
It turns out that both the CR-Vs and Pilots do have similar vibration issues to these in the CT. The CR-V people actually have a name for this - "harmonic tingling". Cute. I guess all front drive vehicles are susceptible to vibrations of one kind or another, given the transaxle designs. That doesn't mean they're all caused by the same thing, though.
I initially thought the problem would be related to the electronic motor mounts and a failure in a mount or the controller. After reading through the posts I'll be curious to see if the dealer leans towards CV shafts or torque converter. Shudder is definitely worse since dealer flashed computer with updates. Never feel it at highway speeds though. Still love our CT and Honda - have faith the dealer will work through this.
I had this same exact problem with my 10' FWD. So they changed the torque converter and it was gone. But after about 18K miles later, it's back. It's not bad as before torque converter replacement. But I can see it getting worse as time goes. Have you try driving from D3? Does it have the same vibration?
For me when I do it on D3, vibration is non-existent. Only happens on normal Drive/ going slow around 2000 rpm / uphill (when you feel the most).
Diagnosis...torque converter?
Took my shuddering '10 FWD EX-L V6 to the shop this morning; got a call this afternoon that it is the torque converter, covered under powertrain warranty. I'm at 54k miles, so not much time left.
This is the second time it's been in for the same complaint. The first time they gave me the transmission software update...didn't fix the problem but I dragged my feet on getting back in.
I'll keep you all posted on the condition.
Took my shuddering '10 FWD EX-L V6 to the shop this morning; got a call this afternoon that it is the torque converter, covered under powertrain warranty. I'm at 54k miles, so not much time left.
This is the second time it's been in for the same complaint. The first time they gave me the transmission software update...didn't fix the problem but I dragged my feet on getting back in.
I'll keep you all posted on the condition.
Nice to hear that you are getting covered. Luckily my dealer went straight to replacing torque converter without a fuss. But now that it's back. I plan to take it back in.
Dealer changed right front axle per Honda's suggestion. Shudder is virtually gone. If I really try hard, I can feel ever so slight shudder but nothing like it was. My assumption is shudder will probably return though. Only problem now is right front tire is feathering outer edge - back to the dealer for an alignment.
Our '13 does not have the D3 position, Sport Shift model only has D & S.
Prior to axle change shudder was most when locked in 3rd at 1800-2400 rpms when under load.
Well, the torque converter seemed to solve my problem for now. I'll keep you guys updated if anything changes.
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My problem is still there. I'm getting the thing serviced shortly and I'll see if they have any new ideas.
My wife needed a new car, but she refused to get a Honda due to the experiences I've had with mine. She got a Camry Hybrid. It's getting 41.5 mpg and she likes it a lot.
I thought it would be slow because I had driven a Lexus hybrid and it was a dog. Even though the engine is only a four cylinder, when you add in the electric motors the thing has really good acceleration. Eight year battery warranty too.
My wife needed a new car, but she refused to get a Honda due to the experiences I've had with mine. She got a Camry Hybrid. It's getting 41.5 mpg and she likes it a lot.
I thought it would be slow because I had driven a Lexus hybrid and it was a dog. Even though the engine is only a four cylinder, when you add in the electric motors the thing has really good acceleration. Eight year battery warranty too.
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Just discovered this problem and this forum. Have a 2013 EX-L v6 fwd. 28k miles. Did the software update, hooked up the machine and drove around. Results to Cal show no issues. Dealer is replacing torque converter now. Wondering about long term results for those with this issue. Seeing lots of solutions, I.e., axels, shafts, TC. This is my first Honda. Dealer has been great, but this sucks. I did like the CRV loaner though a bit small.
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A quick update....dealer called today and told me that new TC did NOT solve the problem. Waiting on new axels now. Would love some feedback on this issue from anyone who has experience. Thanks.
Hi, new to the site and CT's. Just picked up a 2010 EX-L. I love the car, except the shaking. The 20-25mph shake isn't a big deal, as it doesn't happen often, isn't very intense (got to be looking for it to think it wasn't just a bumpy road) and lasts perhaps a second. However, the CT shakes above 70mph, and gets worse quickly as I go faster. it is mostly felt in the steering wheel, but as i get to 75-80 mph you can feel it everywhere. it varies in intensity with turns and inclination of the road.
Having read this entire thread, i don't want to dump a bunch of money into new tires, alignment, etc if that won't help. is the highway speed shake related to the 20-25mph vibration? is this something that honda will fix without too many questions? i have a honda lifetime power train warranty and the option to buy an "everything but the kitchen sink" warranty that lasts to 100k miles for the next 30 days. having read this thread i think that i might. thoughts?
other than the shake the car is fantastic. AWD is awesome in the snow (which it seems there is a never ending supply), it's quiet, roomy and the controls are all hand level. everything is great except the vibrator feel at highway speeds.
Having read this entire thread, i don't want to dump a bunch of money into new tires, alignment, etc if that won't help. is the highway speed shake related to the 20-25mph vibration? is this something that honda will fix without too many questions? i have a honda lifetime power train warranty and the option to buy an "everything but the kitchen sink" warranty that lasts to 100k miles for the next 30 days. having read this thread i think that i might. thoughts?
other than the shake the car is fantastic. AWD is awesome in the snow (which it seems there is a never ending supply), it's quiet, roomy and the controls are all hand level. everything is great except the vibrator feel at highway speeds.
mine shakes too!!
Hey all. My 2012 V6 AWD CT also has a vibration that is right in between 20 and 25 mph. I was thinking that it had something to do with alignment, tires, etc but just purchased new tires and had everything balanced and aligned and... the vibration is still there. It feels very similar to an alignment issue but only happens in that speed range when accelerating gently. It also seems to be more sever when y car is warmed up. I"m covered under warranty so I've made an appointment with the local service department. From this thread it sounds like the issues could be 1) torque lock 2) axle related. Any other ideas to mention to the service department? I can't tell you how relieved I am to find that I am not the only one experiencing this issue. It's so subtle but really feels like there is something wrong, now that I've ruled out tires and alignment. Will report back with any news, or information from the service department.
Hey all. My 2012 V6 AWD CT also has a vibration that is right in between 20 and 25 mph. I was thinking that it had something to do with alignment, tires, etc but just purchased new tires and had everything balanced and aligned and... the vibration is still there. It feels very similar to an alignment issue but only happens in that speed range when accelerating gently. It also seems to be more sever when y car is warmed up. I"m covered under warranty so I've made an appointment with the local service department. From this thread it sounds like the issues could be 1) torque lock 2) axle related. Any other ideas to mention to the service department? I can't tell you how relieved I am to find that I am not the only one experiencing this issue. It's so subtle but really feels like there is something wrong, now that I've ruled out tires and alignment. Will report back with any news, or information from the service department.
2010 CT EX-L 2WD back in the shop for shuddering around 20-25, 40, and 75 mph. This after having the torque converter recently replaced. Just received a call from the advisor; he said he's seen several CTs recently with "noisy axles." Both my front axles are being replaced. I asked if it was a different part they were replacing with and he said it has a new part number. 2,000 miles left on the drivetrain warranty....let's hope this solves it.
Hello all, new crosstour owner here. Just bought a beautiful 2010 EX-L 4WD with 61,000 miles on it. I noticed that slight shutter during a test drive. It didn't happen all the time it was intermittent. The dealer said he thought it might be a tire issue ( improper balance). I've put about 2,000 miles on in the last month and I've only felt it a couple of times. I've had the car up over 80mph with no shutter or vibrations. I'll keep an eye on this issue and see where it goes. I'm interested to see what else this forum comes up with. Good luck all, safe travels.
I own a 2010 CT with 62000 miles and have the same vibration issues. The dealership is telling me its a joint issue. I've seen a few replies here saying they've been told the same thing by their mechanics. Hoping this is indeed the issue and it'll be fixed but worried if this is a design flaw the problem may persist. Anyone hear any talks about a Class action lawsuit? Like the lawsuit that was won for the engine misfire issue.
http://settlement-claims.com/enginemisfire/
These are not cheap repairs and I for one am definitely not happy about paying for these types of costly repairs only 5years and 60K miles into owning what is supposed to be a reliable, long lasting vehicle... Nor do I like to be nickle and dimed by mechanics charging me for their guesses as to what the problem may be.
http://settlement-claims.com/enginemisfire/
These are not cheap repairs and I for one am definitely not happy about paying for these types of costly repairs only 5years and 60K miles into owning what is supposed to be a reliable, long lasting vehicle... Nor do I like to be nickle and dimed by mechanics charging me for their guesses as to what the problem may be.
It may not be a joint issue at all. I and many others have realized it was due to the transmission's torque converter. I have a 2010 as well. Read my post here:
http://www.crosstourownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62370#post62370
Hopefully that's all it is!
http://www.crosstourownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62370#post62370
Hopefully that's all it is!
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I have the same issue with my 2012 Crosstour. I thought I was crazy until my wife told me that she feels a vibration and I have never mentioned it to her before. Has anyone figured out what is going on with this? I know how my service department is (they don't like to fix anything) and would like to point them in the right direction. I'm afraid this will get worse and result in a costly repair.
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Dealership told me....
i also had this issue and the dealer told me it was the ecu and they fixed it for a little bit then it came back and they also told me it was the "electric motor mounts".
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