[wildwilly130]

I am a new Crosstour owner (one week...150 miles) and I have to admit to some disappointments in the vehicle. I bought a 2010 EX-L AWD for almost $35K (MSRP). In evaluating the car I focused my attention on the driving and handling along with the general amenities such as leather, satellite radio, sound system etc.

To my chagrin I learned only after the sale that it lacks some basics in terms of computer capabilities I would normally consider standard for $35K cars. In particular I am disappointed that I get neither a calculation as to the MPG that I am seeing, nor a distance to empty calculation. Heck, I traded a six year old Toyota 4Runner SUV (not even its top model) and all that stuff was standard.

As someone who plans to use the Crosstour to do just that...tour...the lack of these simple presentations is a major lapse that might well have made me reconsider what value I was getting for my dollar. To think that I would have had to spend another $2K plus to get these messages kinda galls. I don't need a navigation system and yet I have to pay for one just to get MPG computations? Please. Next time I will look far more closely at every single aspect of what I am getting when buying a Honda

When I am rolling down the east coast towards Florida I would like to know if the "econ" symbol is actually translating into improved mileage without taking out a calculator. Plus I would welcome knowing how many more miles I can go before having to stop for gas. I consider this a major gaffe that Honda ought to correct.

 

[CCT]

Well good luck with that.......
In the meantime you have a pretty darn good car IMHO, .. one that should give you good service and decent comfort for a long time.
Enjoy it on your travels, and welcome to CrossTour Owners Club.

C.

 

[gthawk]

Hi, I agree. My 1999 Dodge Intrepid displayed both DTE and fuel economy.

While I like my Crosstour (EX-L w/o Nav, AWD, white/white), I can't understand it not coming with those, or with indicator lights on the mirrors, which other Hondas have.

 

[Army Dad]

I agree that the mileage indicator is a great toy. I have the Navi, and I love putting the screen on and learning how to sqeeze mileage out of the car. It is like a game and you learn how and when your car uses gas.

If I can offer you a solution. I have a Ridgeline without Navi and I bought a SCANGAUGE II for it. I believe it was about $140.00.

It plugs right into the OBD connector and gives about 25 different readings including 'real time' mileage and accrued mileage. Voltage, RPMS, MPH, and any other data you can oull from the car computer.

It will also read error codes and even clear them. Two seconds to install and you are off and running. The Ridgeline forum had a bunch of inovative mountings the guys figured out for it. Some they made permanent and others rigged it for easy removal to use in a second vehicle.

If you are in Canada it will also measure in liters and kilometers.

Just a thought, to me it was worth it.

http://scangauge.com/

I think I bought mine from JC Whitney.

Otherwise, enjoy your vehicle, plenty of good info here on the forum and lots of friendly , helpful members.

check it out.

 

[pgarci01]

That's a great gadget AD, looks like the price went up lol. I'm not obsessed with MPG or miles to empty because I try to never drive my car down to empty. When I see that little yellow gas tank I know I got about 50 miles to get gas. I can see why people are obsessed with MPGs cause gas prices are ridiculous but I don't see it changing my driving habits that much. It would be cool to have that in the car but besides that the car is rock solid.

 

[chefmark]

I am a new Crosstour owner (one week...150 miles) and I have to admit to some disappointments in the vehicle. I bought a 2010 EX-L AWD for almost $35K (MSRP). In evaluating the car I focused my attention on the driving and handling along with the general amenities such as leather, satellite radio, sound system etc.

To my chagrin I learned only after the sale that it lacks some basics in terms of computer capabilities I would normally consider standard for $35K cars. In particular I am disappointed that I get neither a calculation as to the MPG that I am seeing, nor a distance to empty calculation. Heck, I traded a six year old Toyota 4Runner SUV (not even its top model) and all that stuff was standard.

As someone who plans to use the Crosstour to do just that...tour...the lack of these simple presentations is a major lapse that might well have made me reconsider what value I was getting for my dollar. To think that I would have had to spend another $2K plus to get these messages kinda galls. I don't need a navigation system and yet I have to pay for one just to get MPG computations? Please. Next time I will look far more closely at every single aspect of what I am getting when buying a Honda

When I am rolling down the east coast towards Florida I would like to know if the "econ" symbol is actually translating into improved mileage without taking out a calculator. Plus I would welcome knowing how many more miles I can go before having to stop for gas. I consider this a major gaffe that Honda ought to correct.

If you are that unhappy with the car then sell it. I agree Honda does do some stupid things but , then so do all car makers. I know that car will start every time I turn the key and for 33k with Nav, I am OK with that.

 

[rolls2]

I have the same EX-L awd w/out nav and I do agree with Wildwilly's comments, but I'm not obsessed with mileage. (I have 2 RR's that suck gas so fast I can watch the gas gauge dropping as I back out of the garage.) I'm interested now because the car is new and I'm curious. I certainly feel that for $35K, it should have a mileage readout! But I also agree with pgarci, he has the right attitude. I love the car otherwise and I'm even getting used to the poor rear vision.<smile>

 

[wildwilly130]

Thanks for all the responses. Gotta agree with all of you that overall the car is excellent and I did buy it due to Honda's reputation for reliability too. I will not sell it for lack of a mileage calculation, was just expressing my frustration with their option pricing (requiring one to buy Nav to get MPG and DTE calcs).

Mine is an Opal Sage metallic, EX-L AWD and it drives and handles beautifully and I'm a Lexus guy from way back (wife still has Lexus RX300 she will not part with). I went with the Crosstour because I liked the styling, AWD etc and since I'm getting older thought I was being "practical"

This is a great forum :>) Thanks again for the responses

 

[chefmark]

was just expressing my frustration with their option pricing (requiring one to buy Nav to get MPG and DTE calcs).

Mine is an Opal Sage metallic, EX-L AWD and it drives and handles beautifully and I'm a Lexus guy from way back (wife still has Lexus RX300 she will not part with). I went with the Crosstour because I liked the styling, AWD etc and since I'm getting older thought I was being "practical"

This is a great forum :>) Thanks again for the responses

Then you have come to the right place, my pet peeve is the outside temp and having to scroll through the Odometer just to that it’s either too hot or too cold outside.

 

[ifonline]

...my pet peeve is the outside temp and having to scroll through the Odometer just to that it’s either too hot or too cold outside.

Um... do you teleport into the vehicle from inside your house? I mean, normally, I can tell if it's cold or hot out as I am walking to my vehicle. The outside temp display in the vehicle is, at that point, useless to me. Unless I find that teleport button...

 

[RyansQuick6]

I think EVERY car in the world comes with something to tell you how far to empty you are, it's called a fuel gauge. Besides, running your tank below 1/4 is a bad idea anyway, it hurts the fuel pump. Gasoline helps to insulate the pump and keep it cool, constantly running it dry only helps wear out the pump faster.

BTW, I didn't pay $35k for mine, or anywhere near that, and I got Nav with the mpg display and miles to empty.

 

[Xaque]

Um... do you teleport into the vehicle from inside your house? I mean, normally, I can tell if it's cold or hot out as I am walking to my vehicle. The outside temp display in the vehicle is, at that point, useless to me. Unless I find that teleport button...

I can tell you that outside temperature, and in that line, road temperature, is a very valuable bit of information. Once you understand how ambient air temp effects handling and driving dynamics... you start to leave the temp gauge displayed all the time.

(It's way more important than the odometer.)

As far as not having the DTE and what-not... one of the reasons I spent the extra for the Nav was to have the actual video screen display, and with that the improved interface.

As far as the OP goes, I'm surprised someone would spend that amount of money on something and *not* be an expert on it before they signed on the dotted line.

Before I make a purchase of anything large, I make sure I know more about it than the salesman.

But that's just me I guess.

-Zack

 

[CCT]

I think EVERY car in the world comes with something to tell you how far to empty you are, it's called a fuel gauge. Besides, running your tank below 1/4 is a bad idea anyway, it hurts the fuel pump. Gasoline helps to insulate the pump and keep it cool, constantly running it dry only helps wear out the pump faster.

BTW, I didn't pay $35k for mine, or anywhere near that, and I got Nav with the mpg display and miles to empty.

Could be Canuck, Ryan......our dollars don't go quite as far as yours do.
C.

 

[RyansQuick6]

Oh that's true, i didn't even think about that. I figured with the way our president was printing money for himself that ours was worth less than the loonie now

 

[wildwilly130]

Hey Quick6, thanks for your opinion, I too have a gas gauge but you missed the point entirely. If you are on a long road trip you want to know what kind of mileage you are getting and it is certainly helpful knowing the DTE for planning when and where you will make your stops. BTW, If you look at my post I noted that the MSRP was $35K....I didn't pay "anywhere near that" either....actually $31K

As for the gentleman who suggested I should have checked to see if the car calculated range and mileage...good point, I agree. This is my first ever Honda so Mea culpa for thinking that Honda had their act together on basics. Heck, my wife's 10 yr old Lexus RX300 provides this as did my 6 yr old Toyota and neither cost $35K

Again, I really like my CT and I can live without range and mpg...it's just an unanticipated annoyance

 

[leek69]

If you are that unhappy with the car then sell it. I agree Honda does do some stupid things but , then so do all car makers. I know that car will start every time I turn the key and for 33k with Nav, I am OK with that.

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