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My humble opinion, which you can ignore...

:) Interesting - as an exercise in "can I do that?", but the Honda key fob does everything your reprogrammed Acura key fob does, but without the "hassle" and cost of materials and service, for reprogramming. If I want to open the trunk, I simply press the unlock button twice. I'm not concerned that the door locks open, too. A press of the lock button, locks everything.

Now, if we can get someone to figure out how to improve the Nav programming and features, thru user hacks, I'm all ears! :p

Vince
I respectfully disagree, but your opinion is obviously what works for you, so I wish I felt like that about our key fob. :)

Anyway, I *hate* having to depress the unlock twice (because sometimes on the 2nd depress I have my hand on the trunk release and it won't go) only because I am often holding a 70lb tool bag, and maybe another one across my shoulder. I hate that I have to do exactly what it want's me to do with two depresses on the keyfob and then wait a second and then grab the trunk release. It's not the boss of me! :D I want a darn trunk release like every other $35k vehicle. Or at bare minimum a positive indication of when *everything* is unlocked, and two cycles of light blinking doesn't count to me.

I asked the dealer the other day if they could just program my remote to make everything unlock on one depress, and they can't (after 20 min he comes back and says "good news, just press it twice!"), which is weird because you have some wiggle room with how the locks work from the inside. Though I believe he's completely correct, there's no evidence in the service manual or any technical documents I've seen that our remote can do other tricks.

I don't know if I'm going to get an Acura key though, because just looking at it - keys that long that stick straight out of the steering column have a tendency to jab me in my long kareem adbul-jabar legs. My knees would shut off my sister's old Jeep Commander all the time, even in motion once in awhile.

-ace

and Blackvl and lots of other people may be fine with the stock arrangement, there's a lot of stuff that other people might find funny that I have no problem with, that's why they call them preferences. . .no one is wrong

PS - would you settle for some HVAC system hacks? It's only a few inches away from the Nav display! :) Check out this cool stuff.
 

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PS - would you settle for some HVAC system hacks? It's only a few inches away from the Nav display! :) Check out this cool stuff.
Hey, that's pretty cool! Guess that diagnostic would come in handy if one suspects their HVAC is acting strange.

BTW Ace, I've been absolutely impressed with your techical acumen. I've learned a lot from your posts! Thanks!

Vince.
 

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Hey, that's pretty cool! Guess that diagnostic would come in handy if one suspects their HVAC is acting strange.

BTW Ace, I've been absolutely impressed with your techical acumen. I've learned a lot from your posts! Thanks!

Vince.
Thank you sir, I certainly appreciate that. . .in reality I'm just a fast googler. :) Hah but I do really enjoy learning & sharing about this kind of stuff, and a fun enthusiast community can't be beat.

It's nice now that the internet is getting a depth of knowledge and documents diverse enough to actually help us be able to answer questions with up to date first hand answers. I remember the first online car group I joined was in 1996 and it was all via email, they called it a "digest," everyone emailed their questions/ideas/answers in to one email address and once or twice a day you got a really long email with ALL the emails from the day in it. I remember I would have my AOL dial up in the background and download the digest so I could read it offline and save my AOL dial-up time. . .lol! In those days it was cool because you were *super* immersed into everything, but once it gets beyond a certain size it gets unwieldy. It would pretty much all be anchored by a few tech centric people sharing advice and part #s we had no way to look up, the rest of us would talk about what kind of leather cleaner to use (no joke).

The forum is an amazing leap forward, it allows you just to check in as often as you want on the topics you want, and it has the great feature of semi-permanently saving important threads, DIYs, etc. A forum can also get a little unwieldy when they get really big (honda-tech, bimmerforums, etc.) though.

I sort of think a forum with the adjunct of a wiki along with it would be ideal, because there's a lot of fun conversational stuff that is great for the forums, but also a lot of part #s, how tos, quick fixes, etc., that would be great for a wiki.

I also thing community tracked Google Docs spreadsheets of problems or TSBs or something also have potential. . .and if its not Google Docs, something like that - free, cloud based, etc.

PS - I'm impressed with your use of (and spelling of) the word acumen! You must have some fancy book learning job. :D

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Xaque, I purchased the ebay version of the case and switched the insides from my original key and everything seems to work perfect. When I took my original key apart I didn't see the transponder chip like I'm used to seeing on other Honda remotes. I'm assuming the transponder chip is in the actual module with the lock and unlock buttons. I saw someone mention that the transponder chip was too far away from the ignition and they had to move the chip closer in the remote. Now my CT starts everytime I put the folding blade key in, but if I turn off to the on position and go to restart the key flashes in the dash and I have to take the key back out of the ignition and put it back in for the car to start. I'm wondering if the Acura key places the transponder in a different position. Can you provide any input into this? Thanks
 

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Xaque, I purchased the ebay version of the case and switched the insides from my original key and everything seems to work perfect. When I took my original key apart I didn't see the transponder chip like I'm used to seeing on other Honda remotes. I'm assuming the transponder chip is in the actual module with the lock and unlock buttons. I saw someone mention that the transponder chip was too far away from the ignition and they had to move the chip closer in the remote. Now my CT starts everytime I put the folding blade key in, but if I turn off to the on position and go to restart the key flashes in the dash and I have to take the key back out of the ignition and put it back in for the car to start. I'm wondering if the Acura key places the transponder in a different position. Can you provide any input into this? Thanks
Can't really help you, as the OEM Acura fob I used had the transponder already in it, and I just had it programmed to my car.

I didn't swap anything out or over, so I'm not sure where it lives in the OEM version.

Sorry.
 

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The original picture links are broken, so here are the pictures so everyone can see them:








 

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Hey everyone!

As I stated in this thread here, I have been working on getting an Acura "Flip Key" to work with my (our) Crosstour.

I am happy to report that I have gotten it to work, and I am starting this new thread to explain the quick and painless process!



Here is the run down:

First, you'll need the Acura TSX flip key from the '09-'10 model year. (The model year is important because they switched the actual key blade style).

The reason that the Acura TSX key works is because the transponder in the unit is the same as is in our Crosstours... as evidenced by the identical FCC ID on the back.

The Acura Key part # is: 35113-TL0-A00
(That is for Driver 1, For Driver 2 replace the last bit with "A10")

You can order the part directly from the Honda eStore, but it'll run you $177. I spoke to a parts manager at an Acura dealer that was willing to sell it to me for $125, but he didn't have it in stock and I would have had to wait until it shipped in. (I think he said his price for the part was $76, so if you know someone, or are good at negotiating, you may be able to talk down the price even more.)

I ended up ordering mine from iKeyless.com for $99 + $5 S&H.

There was a snafu about iKeyless not having it in stock initially, but as I was emailing back and forth, the shipment of them showed up. The customer service was topnotch (no delays in communication) and I was promptly offered a refund or the option to wait when they thought they weren't going to be in for a little bit.

Next, go to your local Honda dealer and have them cut the Acura blank to match your existing key. I had the key code, but all the parts guy wanted was my existing key.

After it was cut (and I confirmed it worked in my locks) I went over to Service, and had them program it to match the car.

NOTE: It is possible to program the remote portion yourself, but the keys have a transponder in them as well. There have been some write-ups online where people explain a process of removing the existing transponder from the valet key and replacing the one in the new flip... but it's literally a "hack" job.

This is why I opted to just go to the dealer and have the new flip programmed correctly.

Our Crosstours can have as many as 3 remotes, and 6 (transponder) keys programmed for use. This means that I was able to keep my 2 original remote keys, my valet key, and add the flip key.

Also, all that was needed to program the new key was 1 existing key. I was told that since I'm only adding one key, you don't need all of them. (Conversely, if you are programming 2+ keys, ALL the keys you wish to program with the vehicle, such as the valet key, have to be present.)

My local Honda dealer charged me $39.50 for cutting and programming the new key.

After 15 minutes my car was ready and I was handed the working Acura flip key by a very surprised service tech.

The best part is that the Trunk button actually works!

If the vehicle is locked, you can press (and hold) the trunk release button and it will unlatch the rear hatch. I've found that you need to apply upward pressure while you do this, because simply pressing the button wont unlatch it fully. Then, once you are done rooting around you can close the hatch and the vehicle will remain locked.

Needless to say I am very pleased with my new flip key, and would recommend it to anyone. As long as you have a working Crosstour key, and can manage to order the right part number, there isn't any skill needed.

I'd say the hardest part of the entire mod was convincing the people at the Honda dealer to just take me word that it would work, and to try programming it like any other key. (I basically argued with them for 5min about whether it could be done, I finally had to say that I would pay even if it didn't work, and that they need to just "try" it.)

All said and done, the mod cost me a total of $144.40 which I'm sure some people will think is too steep to "fix" something that isn't broken... but I feel over all, it's very inexpensive for a fun and unique key.

Here are the pictures...











As I said in the other thread, I ordered the replacement flip key from eBay for about $15... but after I received it, I figured that the piece of mind that comes with an OEM part, and the fact that some modification was going to have to be done with the eBay part, it was worth it to me to spend the extra $$ on the Acura key.

-Zack

here’s an update , i did this too on my 2010 crosstour , trunk works , even my aftermarket remote start works. now i just need it cut and reprogrammed since my memory seats aren’t linking to the new key
 
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