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4 Cylinder On The Way For 2012???

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I can't be the only one that has read on a well known Honda entusiast site with temple in its name that a 4 CYL Crosstour (FWD ONLY?) is rumored to be on the way this fall. Or is this just old news......
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I have no idea what website you are talking about...

But I can't help to think that a 4cyl Crosstour would be overwhelmingly anemic...

...Considering the current model can go down to 4 or 3 cyl now when appropriate for the MPG savings.
Well, I just googled "Honda" and "Temple" together and I got the piece you are talking about on vtec.net.

I would like to see this email that was supposedly sent out... but I stand by my previous statement.

Although, if Honda is okay with a CR-Z having an above 10sec 0-60 time, then I guess a 4cyl, 4,000lb Crosstour isn't out of the question.
They have a good rep for posting credible information.

A 4 cyl gives a lower price point for an entry level and competes with the Venza 4 cylinder.
Newb here.

Own a 2010 CT EX 2WD. Work at a Honda Dealership. I call BS on this e-mail. I've heard nothing about it and asked everyone who would know something about it. Next time our Honda rep comes in I will talk to him directly about it as well.

Just my $0.02.
Newb here.

Own a 2010 CT EX 2WD. Work at a Honda Dealership. I call BS on this e-mail. I've heard nothing about it and asked everyone who would know something about it. Next time our Honda rep comes in I will talk to him directly about it as well.

Just my $0.02.


What department do you work in? Even if you are in sales they may not even tell you.

The annual dealer meetings are coming up soon. If it is true the news won't take long to get around.
What department do you work in? Even if you are in sales they may not even tell you.

The annual dealer meetings are coming up soon. If it is true the news won't take long to get around.
I am in Sales and I also handle Finance and business office transactions.

I spoke with the General Sales Manager and President of the dealership on the matter. Our dealership is a local family owned business. They would tell me if they knew, I am for sure of it.
My guess is that it is unlikely but possible. Honda obviously hasn't moved the number of crosstours they anticipated. Putting a 4 cylinder engine in the car and lowering the price may target some perspective buyers. Possible but unlikely.
This is from another forum it was posted by a comfirmed dealer employee.

Dear Honda Dealer,

Happy New Year! As we start a new year we would first like to thank you for your efforts last year as Honda continued to grow and prosper in an extremely competitive environment. We finished the year with 1,096,874 new car sales which is almost a 6% increase over 2009. Truck sales remained strong with a 9% increase while car sales held a modest increase of 2%. These unit sales increases reflect a year where your profits also found strength. Nationally, dealer net profit reflected a 23% increase from the YTD November statement, and dealer operating profit is up 25%. Again, thank you for your relentless effort and focus in 2010.

We are extremely excited about the Honda business in 2011. The Civic Launch Meeting (February 16-17) in Las Vegas, Nevada, will focus solely on the all new 2012 Civic which is scheduled for release in late April. Also, in mid-summer the Crosstour will be available in a 4 cylinder model to compliment the current 6 cylinder model and Honda will launch a minor model change to the very popular Pilot. To top off these product enhancements, an all-new CRV will arrive later this year. All of these enhancements will join a full year of the all-new 2011 Odyssey, and two top 10 Car and Diver Magazine vehicles - the Accord (a record 25th time) and the Fit.

I cannot confirm it to be real or not.....Just tossing it out there.
with 4cyl Crosstour car kinda heavy not sure how it will handle if it does come out in the future i would love to find out but until then no one konw just wait and see.
If it will be 4 cyl and tehy are going to compete with Venza - Honda has to keep in mind that for Venza (Highlander) Toyota developed new engine - 2.7.

2.4 Honda currently has will lose the battle if it will go to CT.
Dear Honda Dealer,

Happy New Year! As we start a new year we would first like to thank you for your efforts last year as Honda continued to grow and prosper in an extremely competitive environment. We finished the year with 1,096,874 new car sales which is almost a 6% increase over 2009. Truck sales remained strong with a 9% increase while car sales held a modest increase of 2%. These unit sales increases reflect a year where your profits also found strength. Nationally, dealer net profit reflected a 23% increase from the YTD November statement, and dealer operating profit is up 25%. Again, thank you for your relentless effort and focus in 2010.

We are extremely excited about the Honda business in 2011. The Civic Launch Meeting (February 16-17) in Las Vegas, Nevada, will focus solely on the all new 2012 Civic which is scheduled for release in late April. Also, in mid-summer the Crosstour will be available in a 4 cylinder model to compliment the current 6 cylinder model and Honda will launch a minor model change to the very popular Pilot. To top off these product enhancements, an all-new CRV will arrive later this year. All of these enhancements will join a full year of the all-new 2011 Odyssey, and two top 10 Car and Diver Magazine vehicles - the Accord (a record 25th time) and the Fit.
very interesting though
Don't see the logic for a car this heavy.....howerver, I do understand wanting to bring down the starting price
Don't see the logic for a car this heavy.....howerver, I do understand wanting to bring down the starting price
Word. [yawn]
Its not too far fetched... The rumor I heard was that it would be tuned to about 200 hp like the TSX Sportwagon... And the 2WD CT is only a few hundred pounds heavier the Accord sedan. Those cars are pretty quick and my 08 v6 sedan was just slightly faster.
Might better gas mileage may be another angle? I prefer performance myself and the 6 banger does fine by me.
So THAT'S why Honda put a "V6" badging on the 2012 Crosstour. To differentiate it from the I-4. Honda engineers had this in mind from the very beginning...
Wow, real persistence on this issue Dazed, good job.

Any guesses how this will sell, anybody?
Not sure if anyone else saw the January 2012 issue of Car and Driver, but it lists the 10 best cars for 2012 under $80,000. Their criteria was a vehicle while satisfying must meet their every want. (I almost feel embarrassed that I admit to reading this rag). But anyway, Honda has two of their vehicles listed in the top ten. Actually Ford did too. But here is their Top 10. (Alphabetical Order)

Audi A6 / A7 3.0T Quattro
BMW 3-Series / M3
Cadillac CTS-V
Ford Focus
Ford Mustang GT/Boss 302
Honda Accord
Honda Fit
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Porsche Boxster/Cayman
Volkswagen Golf/GTI

Now granted our Crosstour did not make the list, but our sister car the Accord did. It should be noted that the Honda Accord with the 4 cylinder engine is the vehicle they are talking about, NOT the 3.5 liter V6. Car and Driver listed the specifications of the Accord as:

Base Price = $18,765 to $25,465
EPA / City / Hwy = 21-30 / 31-42

Much different cost and fuel economy then our CT. I wasn’t really expecting to see our CT in Car and Driver, why would they? For the 15 or so people?
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